No say in joining, no option to leave. The saddest thing is that even as a small child I knew none of the doctrine made the slightest bit of sense, yet I told myself I must try harder and harder to believe, because surely this wouldn’t be taught (as fact) if it were not true. It took me until I was about 20 years old to finally reject it all – 20 years of struggling with the faith that I could have done without. My understanding of myself, others and how the world works skyrocketed once the utter nonsense of religon was removed from my life. Thasnks NotMe.ie for the opportunity to defect, even if only symbolically.